This guy cured his dog’s cancer with ChatGPT + 4 other crazy AI stories

alright there's a lot of stuff going on specifically ai stuff it feels like every day there's a new crazy story about ai so i wanted to do a little bit with you sam crazy ai stories you know one crazier than the next well except to get crazier every single story i feel like i could rude where to i know i could be what i want to from at all in it like a days off on a roll i was talking to a friend and he was like i was trying to talk to my boss about something and apparently the boss had made like four or five agents that he calls employees and the boss replied to the feedback of like you know like we need to create x y and z their boss said can you talk to my chief of staff about that and and so this person had to go and like message the chief of staff and was like messaging the chief of staff and it like we they weren't getting the answer that they wanted and they go to the the boss again and go hey your chief of sack sucks like what what's what's their deal and the boss said well can you tell her boss my head of operations and so she like or he literally had to go to like the boss of the agent to like say like can we get this person on a pip and this whole boss this boss of this like fifty person percent organization was like referring to these people as people and like making his real life employees interact with them have you done anything that extreme with ai and agents no but i find the whole hey i'm gonna have this entire like autonomous company of agents and then me on top thing to be so funny because it's like who says you get to be on top right which why would you be why would you be the the all knowing if if ai is so good that it could do all these jobs you think it just can't do yours like you why is yours so special and it reminds me of a what's that like poem where it's like first they came for the the socialists and i did not speak out and then they came for the for the jews and i did not speak out and then they came for this and when they came for me there was no one left to speak out that's that's basically what i think is happening with ai i andrew wilkinson came out with this personality test and i took it and it was really cool and then listen to this my wife and i did it together because there's like a thing where you could share it with your spouse and then there's one where we could share with their business partner so i saw tell my business partner to do it and he mistakenly shared the wife version that he he and it said that like it talked about like our sexual competitor like are we compatible or not when you shared the you he wife my my i shared it with my wife and he i go joe this is cool do this he did this on his own and he was like i did it with my wife too was really fun and i like hey there's a button this year and fact and i was like there's a button that you can click and we could see how a business partners how we are compatible and he mistakenly he's set he sent me the partner one which meant love partner not business partner and it's supposed to but there was another button that said coworker and he met to click the coworker button and i'm like well good news that we are very sexually compatible and so he sent that to me but i have claude read my slack and it gives me advice on how to reply to our slack based off of each other's personalities it's insane wow it's just incredible i mean i could see the cynical take i see it see it right in front of me but at the same time it's something cool right so okay give me an example what did it what did it coach what did it teach you differently well today it was like you know joe if you criticize the organization because he's the ceo he's gonna react defensive and that's one of his like that's one of his things and he tends to get defensive if you criticize x y and z so instead of criticizing it this way say my my opinion is you know we should do this instead and or for me it was like you know sam tends to criticize bluntly but he doesn't mean it in a way and so like right it it just has helped us communicate it's been really effective but he does like kisses on the neck sorry like if i see just like smack them on the ass and tell him you appreciate them so what's your first crazy story i a give story that's amazing did you guys just swear like to never speak of it or what yeah i just thought i was like just so you know you sent it to me i saw you i saw the letters s e x i knew what it was i just rolled right past it oh that's amazing alright if you wanna hit your goals you need a system and so i worked with hubspot to put together a step by step process showing you how i use chat gb as a life coach so i uploaded my personal finances my net worth my goals and the output is that i have this gp that i can ask questions that i'm having issues within my life like how should i respond to this email what's the right decision things like that and it's literally changed my life and so if you want that it's free we will send you everything you need to know to set this up in just about twenty minutes and i'll show you how i use it so check it out the link is below in the description back to the episode i don't if you saw this ant philanthropic did six billion dollars in revenue in a single month last month which is insane and i just wanna put this in perspective for you i heard this on here's on all in or something they said this straight line he goes just to put that in perspective six billion what it did in in february is more revenue than snowflake or data bricks like two of the greatest software companies of the last twenty years these enterprise software behemoth that are like multi hundred billion dollar companies that's more than their annual revenue and ant ent just like messed around a did in a month last month which is just insane did you cancel your chad no dude i'm a pot what of a poly i'm maxed out on everybody i got gemini i i got complexity computer i got claude i got chat give it give me all the intelligence i i like for years i was like i for a year it sounds like i'm saying for years for a year since chat has existed i was like this is my guy that i'm not gonna switch and as soon as this new version of claude came out it's i explicitly only use that and i use it all day it's so it's so amazing yeah i wanna actually do like a survey like a census data survey to you know ten thousand you know high performers and be like this is the situation which friend do you trust who do you trust who you go to like i had a legal question yesterday and i've just was like i'm just gonna go to g because if i need the right answer here i need a thorough rigor i'm gonna go to g why i don't know i'm just is all vibes if i need writing a help i'm like i go claude if i needed to make something i go to claude but if it's just like quick and easy chat is it's my best buddy right so it's like you have these different use cases i know if i'm completely alone in that and these are made up arbitrary strengths and weaknesses that i've sort of picked up or if everybody's feeling this way that's actually pretty interesting so what's funny is people talk about claude to me forever and ant philanthropic and i didn't know what it was put a we'll put a survey in the bottom of the show i wanna see how people use say it'll be like five questions or something and i wanna know which tool do you trust for this situation and i wanna see if our audience mirrors me and use on usage and then we'll send we'll we'll share the data next time i thought claude was like the the second third fourth place i thought it was like a joke but i was wrong as per usual i am the joke it's just like how i normally feel about these but yeah like i you i thought that like ant philanthropic i was like you know that's just like that's like using yahoo right what what the founder is he did he work at up or is he just a guy he just a brother he was like one of like the core four or five people at at open and he left oh wow okay and how much do you think that company works so six times twelve is seventy two so they're doing seventy two million billion ai over there aren't at ai that was a critical little six times twelve i like that no big deal they're currently valued like at four hundred billion steel shockingly by the way other great news i am now officially an investor of open and i'm trying to get an ant too but i you know at the low low price of eight hundred billion dollars have invested in open call me a genius good congratulations what who's this guy his name's is da is is there anything interesting about it or is he just a genius i know what you're asking which is you know that's like between you and that's kind of like does he also have a weird hobby did he have some which strange upbringing was he a child prodigy that's kind of what you're asking for i'm sure he's a very interesting guy i don't know of any of those things that we really like about people i don't know if he he we he has any of those you know just a typical genius okay he he did say it's a pretty interesting thing so they're growing so fast right so they they basically he said they've they've run revenue ten x every single year for the last one three or four years so it was like zero to hundred million a hundred million to a billion a billion to ten billion and now they're basically going ten billion to a hundred billion is the current like jump that they're making and this you know doing six billion in a month is is indicative of that and he was like you the crazy thing is i have to invest in servers right so i have to like buy inventory essentially it's like a clothing brand i have to buy all these chips and these servers and the data centers and he's basically being seen as like a wolf because he's not going out there yelling like i'm gonna do a trillion dollar data center like open ai sam all doing that and he he pointed out onto to our ka podcast he goes the weird thing is like we're like one of the most successful companies ever but if i'm wrong like if i bet wrong on that we'll go bro he's like so if i bet if i bet on another ten x but we only grow five x in a year we could go bankrupt and so he's like it's a very strange situation that i have to keep like being conservative even though we have the most explosive growth and they're sort of limited on that but now they're like the number one app in the app store on and on google and apple right now i think and so they're just growing incredibly fast to put this in perspective when you and i were twenty two growing up in san francisco like trying to like make it big the golden standard was triple triple double double meaning your revenue needs a triple and then triple again and then double and then double and that is how you build a once in a generation company now you were the winner if you were on that trajectory and now it's ten x ten x ten x ten x it's just a it's just for not even in the same ballpark so it's kinda hard to fathom them yeah yeah it's great the bar has raised alright next story you probably saw this this is going viral on twitter everywhere amazing man uses ai to cure his dog's cancer and the short story is there's this australian entrepreneur who basically was like i kind of like a data nerd so his dog had like a bump on his back i believe and he you know was kind of like well there's nothing he could do and so he said well we're sure about that and he decided to enter the high agency olympics and manually go cure his dogs cancer and so i think what he did with some version of the following he's talking to chat gp about like what he could potentially do that gives him an idea which is to sequence the dna of the tumor versus the dna of his other cells and the idea being if you extract the dna of the tumor cells there's some mutation that's causing the growth and you take his normal cells and other part of his body or maybe it was a prior year or something like that if you compare the difference you would see that oh this tumor cells has some this is the anomalous part of the the genome that's causing the problem potentially which by the way he had to like pay for out of pocket he went to a lab he was like hey can i get one sequencing done for this and they were like okay and they got it under some research purposes and then he took that and they gave it to then he used alpha fold which is the google deep mind product for predicting protein folding structure so proteins we kinda know we know what the genome is but you gotta know how it's folded up the shape of it if you're gonna actually like attack it with some sort of treatment so then he using the alpha fold figures out the shape of the thing then using g designs a single shot custom vaccine goes to a lab convince them to do it and he says by the way in this whole process that the the regulatory was the harder part than actually curing the cancer like getting the approval where he was able to actually do this and they would they would manufacture the vaccine form him approval from the vaccine manufacturer the other the the vacuum vaccine manufacturer needed to know like you don't get to just like you know you and i can't just go and make vaccines so there's protocols in place to make sure that people aren't like manufacturing you know whether it's viruses or self treatments that could do harm and whatnot and so they were able and then so he as he was doing this someone who who already had the ethics clearance to do research on pets heard about what he was doing and they he kinda used their umbrella to get the vaccine made gave the vaccine cured his dog legend paul you're a legend i have a friend who has cancer and he actually works at open i tweeted about this as like a i don't i don't particularly know why he wanted me to tweet this but he was like hey i need one of these three drugs and i'm having a hard time getting in touch with the particular person who i can get the drug from and interestingly mark cuban reached out to me and was like hey you know give me your friend's cell phone number i'll i'll give mc call and and hook i'm on it and sort of martin sk and i was like well buddy you want batman or he want the joker yeah i was like i don't i you know takeaway what you could get here yeah and so he did and you know now he's getting what he needs but i have to imagine he works i i i i know if i said this works at open ai and i'm like if you're reading this you have to imagine that this is the next step that you're gonna take right right yeah that's crazy is he doing the similar thing is he basically trying to self create like is he basically using ai tools to come up with hypotheses to then come up with you know possible treatments for himself like what what's going on what is your what is your friend doing that sounds interesting i don't ask him i i let him come to me when things are going good i i try not to bring it up too much this is his second time that he has he's had cancer lost his leg got cancer again and so i'm like whenever you need me let me know he'll visit my home and he's like at a new york doctor but i do know that there's this guy named sid sid is the founder of a company called get lab have you heard a git lab they're like you know like big developer tool multi billion dollar company yeah so sid and my buddy became friends because sid wrote this article called i'm going founder mode on cancer and so sid has chance did sid leave get lab to do this or there's like a side thing he's doing well sid has the same cancer as my friend so i don't know if he's left git lab for sure but he goes i'm going founder mode on cancer and so he's hired this team of doctors and i believe in his article he said they are using ai to do a lot of this stuff and so my buddy connected with sid because they have these exact same cancer so he's using sids doctors as well to you know it's a fancy concierge cancer doctor and they are going through this journey of like trying to cure this very very rare cancer and so sid who's the founder of git lab who is a technical company so and it's he's a billionaire i presume then that like you know this a very special person who could figure out these types of cases he's actually documenting on his subs stack how he's trying to share his cancer it's really interesting that's amazing alright well we're we're wishing them the best that's a i mean i feel more hopeful about this sort of thing than i ever right like i think the combination of ai and then on top of ai is i would say like the fact that oz and these weight loss drugs seem to have done something that sounded like too good to be true it's like well there is a magic pill for weight loss turns out there what there actually is a magic pill for weight loss like that kind of like is a you know breaks a little bit of a mental barrier of like maybe you can just one shot certain you know certain issues or or problems that play huge percentage of people so i feel more you a more hopeful than ever that there's like you know new new break there's new inflection that would change you know how cancer treatment works over the next you know one to ten years and if we totally butcher the name botched the name so if we did whatever but the github founders or git lab founders pitching up your company too if this makes it to you guys dm sean because it would could be potentially fun if you wanna talk about this on a podcast it would be actually love talking about that that that's actually super fascinating but it is crazy that does stuff still exists like when you think about like i remember when l sean came out and that was like okay someone famous finally as cancer when they're were young we're gonna bring awareness to this thing and now when you think about all the billions of billions of dollars i think what's her name the kate middleton had it like it is kind of crazy how like this still exists the way it does yeah yeah they're just needed you know you needed the technology and then you needed the the sort of the the will here's another thing that makes me helpful and so nat who i think you know well i'm buddy that so he just tweeted out this really interesting thing he goes make one million by graduation or get a hundred percent of your tuition refunded that the premise of the new high school for entrepreneurs that cameron and i are launching this fall through alpha school we need two or three coaches make this happen so the premise is they're creating a new high school using alpha schools technology which we've talked about before the ai education software that joe lam has put a billion dollars into building that is getting tons and tons of buzz everywhere so now they're doing a high school based off of it and the idea is is almost like incredibly incentive aligned almost maybe two incentive aligned is too aligned too aligned make a make a million dollars by high school graduation or your tuition was free i think alpha schools like seventy or eighty k or the the the kids version that that's in austin so you know this is a a pretty big bet that they're baking this is crazy this is not like one of the crazier tweets i thought that so her mo talks about nailing nailing the offer and well he says an offer you you know they'd be stupid to say they'd they'd be stupid to say no too right like it would be dumb for me to turn down this offer and if you are the type of person where this idea tickle your fancy where you want your kid to like build something this is the greatest offer of all time i i mean it's crazy do you think this is even i mean like are we just old guys who are not up with the times that like is this really possible can high school so high school you're fourteen to eighteen years old so if i gave even the most switched on fourteen to eighteen year olds and if i was just coaching them every single day let's say i had let's say that mean you had twenty high schoolers so he every coach day we were their coach let's just pretend that that was true how many of the twenty do you think we could get to make a million dollars over the four year period it's not zero but it's also not twenty what do you think that number is one four years four is it kind of a long time actually four years actually most i think most right well like in revenue like like like we can create some type of app that buys ads to grow and is not losing money i'm i feel confident that i could do that half the time i'm gonna use the assumptions if there's no external funding that we give where they can go raise money if they want but we can't give them the money and that it's not a million dollars of revenue maybe is this is that what he meant by make one million or do he mean if it's revenue then then that's quite a a high chance i could do that a lot of the time if it's profit that's much much harder right if it was profit i think we could probably get five out of twenty in a four year period i i would guess that we'd have some kind hit rate around you know twenty twenty five percent it's pretty magical so let's talk about why we said it's too aligned we're joking i think that this is really good for a very particular type of person but i do think that optimizing towards entrepreneurship for everyone in glorify glorified i think it's over being over glory glorified i think that's wrong i don't think that it should be that way for everyone i think it should be for a small amount of people that interests you just like saying that we should get everyone to play music we should get everyone be play sports we should get everyone be good at accounting and so i think that this is a bit i'm not criticizing these guys because they saying for those interested in this this is they offer i don't think that this should should be the default for all high schools oh you feel like in general the everybody's gotta get on their entrepreneurial grind i think that's stupid not the right message because obviously not everybody needs to get on the entrepreneurial grande yeah i i just don't think that's necessary what what were you what were you saying i was saying it's too aligned as it you didn't need to make it a million coulda got you could've have you know what what's the real thing basically i would say if you did a hundred thousand this would have been i mean that would still be incredibly successful right if you can make make a make a hundred grand or a hundred fifty grand or something like that but of course that's not the marketing message that would stick the reason this got on the show today is because he had a million so in that sense it's the absolute right number to choose a if nothing else it is a p r offer and you know i don't know how i don't know what that does to the business that that distort things long term but like in the short term you get the big benefit of putting something out there that is buzz worthy it's like when peter till did the teal fellowship and i think what he did was i think he only spent two million dollars out of pocket to do the teal fellowship which two million dollars is not nothing but in the world of billionaires giving money for for causes there's plenty of people who write bigger checks than that so why did the teal fellowship get so much notoriety because he attached it to a very spiky message and the spiky message was universities are a bubble and like the housing bubble and other bubbles it's it's bubble because nobody else thinks it's a bubble you know that's the only way you get to be a big bubble is when everybody sort of assumes education is great how could you you can't criticize education housing is great everybody should own know home you can criticize that and what he said was not just i'll give this to people who have good ideas but i'll pay you to drop out of college the literally the opposite of hey kids stay in school right they the old message you're supposed to say and because it was so spiky he got tons of tons of notoriety because he got tons of tons of notoriety he attracted the right people because the message got far enough where those like you know the vital metallic of the world the dylan dillon of the world who create fig they heard the message that we're able to apply for the teal fellowship and and came in and made it happen and so i think maybe this this might be the right approach like the x prize where you have to do something novel and and noteworthy and almost polarizing in order to make it work today's episode is brought to you by hubspot did you know that most businesses only use twenty percent of their data that's like reading a book but then tearing out four of the pages point is you miss a lot and unless you're using hubspot the customer platform that gives you access to the data you need to grow your business the insights that are trapped in emails call logs transcripts all that unstructured data makes all the different because when you know more you grow more and so if you wanna read the whole book instead of just reading part of it visit hubspot dot com so let me tell you a quick story so on friday i went to austin reeves house for dinner and we or he had over these eight young guys and i posted a link to who they are in slack and so if you look this up so the york post just did an article on these guys five days ago and it says these gen z digital mo are building seven figure companies by lifting weights so it's basically i met these guys in hampton and i met them and i was like austin you gotta meet these guys this is incredible so we talked about josh that's like guy josh so josh we talked about him he has that company called treat talk you might know oliver do you know oliver he had the company called you chocolate thing now he's doing this and then that's seam this is like a boy band that you're talking about like oliver cute seam has highlights and then like you know brandon is dating rebecca like what's going on here so listen it was these eight guys they are all the eldest one was oliver and he twenty five i believe and there all these young guys who share an office and they all all started companies one of them was his a guy named victor literally really looks like elon musk young one of those all he kinda talks like him too one of them raised a hundred and forty million dollars for the company and anyway sees all these young guys and we had them all at of dinner and i was like wanna sound like an old creepy guy but you guys are so young like can you tell me everything that like twenty one year old entrepreneurs are into because when i was twenty one and i left school to move to san francisco i was a freak among freaks it just seems like you guys are way normal for how successful you are you might not wanna call yourself to free amongst freaks it's just give as we're talking about eight young men you had over for dinner yeah if if we get a little and so think god my wife is there and you kinda get away with a lot when she's there but they were saying that they're like dude we are like killing it for how young we are the thirteen year olds are now coming after us they're like the way that they're like the way that you are talking to us like you're in awe of how young and successful we are we feel that way with thirteen and fourteen year olds he said there's so many thirteen and fourteen year olds that we know who we know who are building stuff that is gonna be way better than us it's just crazy how young these guys are who are building amazing things i mean we had zach zach on from ka you sold this company for tens or a hundred or a hundred million dollars at the age of twenty i think nineteen like there's a whole generation of these kids it's just absolutely amazing before it was college we made up that number by the way he didn't tell this one hundred million make yeah sorry that that's yeah those are some assumptions but this line due is so funny we talk about the problems we're facing hiring scaling girls shame is still less your typical twenty so twenty year old dude stuff are they just the new gym ten laundry hiring scaling girls history it's just like crazy have you noticed how young some successful entrepreneurs are right now before it was like you know the very very rare college dropout zuckerberg style person and that was like a one of one in a million now it seems way more common yeah i told you dude i feel like the guy who it's this the horse drawn carriage guy and i've been i've been driving this route for for ten years and it's it's a good thing and i'm standing on the side of the road next to my horse and then a tesla roadster zooms by and i'm just like what the hell is that and that's how i feel when i see here and talk to some of the young inspiring founders and guys who are doing content guys who are doing e comm guys who doing ai like there's so much energy enthusiasm excitement and talent that i feel like is unleashed and you know the by the way the reason why to me is like pretty obvious the information is out there and we're all meme creatures so in the same way that like you know i'll go to my kids school function and like half the moms there have like lip filler and botox and shit like that and you know why because that's become normalized and they've seen it everywhere right on instagram and then whether it's you know you know reality tv shows or whatever it becomes normalized it becomes you see it once twice three times four times five times it starts to become a a a thing that feels normal and accessible to you well like when we were growing up there was no twitter right so you didn't have act i didn't have access i've never even saw i didn't even know like i don't think until i was maybe eighteen years old did i even know an entrepreneur like i actually had met an entrepreneur who told me that oh i have this business and here's how how it works i never listened to a podcast about entrepreneur entrepreneurship i you never watched a youtube video there were i mean the were podcast when we were fourteen right i don't think there were and so it's like when we were thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen right a pretty formative age like the only thing i had exposure to was basically like the nba or skateboarding or like you know these that was what was the cool thing that you could go try to model and emulate outside right or during your summers or during your when you got home from school and like i feel like today if you go home you have access to twitter you have access to tiktok you've asked is to instagram you have access to youtube and on those platforms you can get into any rabbit hole into any niche that you want and the people who stumble into the kinda like tack elon musk bubble right they're gonna see this is gonna become normal to them the idea that you can make millions of dollars people who are listen to the podcast where we did with zach where it's like oh here's this nineteen year old kid who just sold his company that was doing thirty million you an arr that now becomes normalized for a huge generation of people who are then gonna do their own version of that we didn't have that at that advantage so i don't think the human species evolves that fast but i do think if you give it new training data if you give it new like stuff to to to be a mime about and just copy they will do pretty well they were talking about like dating and i referenced the book the game and they're like what's the game and i was like come here son it's called testament yeah come here boy obviously my laugh alright what's the next one alright i don't know just saw this pokemon go as one of the the great pivot of all time did did you see the story i did not alright so if you remember pokemon go was like the hit game i don't know when this was like like nineteen or twenty yeah like yeah know seven years ago or something like that it was a huge deal that people it was this new style game you would take out your phone and your phone would just be on like kinda of camera mode you walk around a city and then you would like discover a pokemon it would show up like using like like the kind of they would overlay the little pokemon on on top of like the street where you were standing alright cool so that became like a kind of like a one to two billion dollar game i think they sold the game for two or three billion dollars because hey you had this huge type cycle and it kind of died down well this is really interesting story about the fact that they're now they now they sold the game but they kept all of the photos the videos and so what that means is like they had you know i don't know one of the hundred hundred million players or something like that walking around every city in the world but their phone out capturing what the street looks like and if you think about it that's actually really valuable data for ai that wants to do not self driving but like self delivery right so like delivery bots that are gonna go on sidewalks in through neighborhoods or down city streets and have to deliver something well they need to recognize where am i what does this look like what is the terrain how does this work etcetera and so they took that data and they're licensing it out to all these ai companies now because they're the only ones in the world who have this data and like you've heard this kinda like data data's is the new oil that's a little misleading because there's just like there's just oil with data there's like very specific like niche types of data and so you might have like a specific type of oil that nobody else has and pokemon go the company behind at nia has that data for real world behavior right if you if you've ever seen like a the google street view thing right like google would send out a car with a camera that's rotating on top taking pictures of of everything around it and they would literally drive every street in the world essentially was the was the game plan with google street view and they do it they did it every like ten years side one drove by my house the other day and i got so excited and i went out and i flashed it and i was like yes that's internet history baby that's for the next ten years if anyone ever looks up this property so they're gonna see my hairy belly out there i i did that shit you could think of what else to do i knew it was a moment i weren't storm only at fifteen seconds and i went marty grow on instead in a crystal point grow i i've hated the analogy of data in new oil because for years and years you know p this for years but there was no use for it and it actually it's actually kind of a good analogy did you know that the oil industry existed you know john rockefeller started standard oil like in the eighteen eighties but cars weren't invented invented really until like nineteen fifteen nineteen eighteen and they didn't really get popular like nineteen twenty and so up to like nineteen fifteen what was what did they use oil for well it was actually mostly ke scene and so like street lamps you would have someone go and like literally light the lamps in a city and that was enough to make the industry big and then you know they were like doing it and killing it and killing a killing it then henry ford created ford and i think in nineteen fourteen the first model a sorry model t came about and the oil industry exploded and what is going on in some cases is kinda like that with ai where like there's data and like but data new oil but like there's no use case for this oil like yeah we maybe we think this is useful but what are we gonna use it for now it's like they have finally found the like a good place to actually put this oil yeah that makes a lot of and i feel like that's happened now with a few people they they woke up and they're like oh what's the under my back oh it's a lottery ticket and like you know that's basically what this is we talked about handshake that company that was basically a like a college student internship job board type of product it's kinda dumb not not dumb it just it was fine yeah was it was like not gonna be the biggest thing in the world it was is a useful thing right like college grads who want jobs and employers who wanna hire like you know fresh college grads and then they real that they pivoted to basically training data where they're were like oh we have all these students and whether it's you know different disciplines who all these ai labs wanna pay to do curated training data so you know whether it's here's here's math answers you tell me if if the math answers are good you label whether the answers were good you give sort of that expert feedback to it or it's labeling data that sort of like you know that was they sort of woke up and you know had a a lottery ticket in their back i feel and and i and you know they had to identify it and they had to act on it for sure that's you know more credit to them but there's like a number of these companies that turns out where city you know it's like actually a better a better analogy is like the people who you know you buy a home and then you get a knock on the door and it's like turns out your home was built on top of like an old mineral reserve and you can get paid like far more than the sum of your home to just leave to just like to just let us bull those this home and and do this instead and i feel like that's what's happening with a handful of companies right now because of their unique datasets yeah i don't know if it's gonna happen to a lot but it definitely is a good example of this happening in a wonderful way what's the next one don't know how much to say about this guy uses chad to sell his house so florida man sold his house in five days using chad without real estate i don't really have much to say about this but there is a funny florida man game that i played the other day have you ever done the florida man and then your birth date no well yeah let's go what's your birthday sam june fifteen what's that june june fifteen so florida man june fifteenth here's the top story florida man pushes pastor knocks church coolers to the ground what's the second one florida man said it's the thirty months for illegally transporting an alien yeah all like something i would do that's the lot of et and sure he was a good guy in that alright i got one more here so have you seen this carp out jobs thing no but i saw the ant philanthropic version but what's the carp auth one do you know who carp is i don't even know who he is but i know that when people say carp says blank about ai you're supposed to take it seriously he was one of the og of open ai he was then poached by tesla he ran the tesla self driving program for like a decade or something like that he went back to open ai after their that and then now he's just like indie hacker he's just peter levels with like six brains instead of one human brain and he's just fucking around and he just posts on twitter like random ai little experiments he's doing so he made this thing called carve out the ai dot ai slash jobs and you can see this on the screen here so basically what it did is he took all of the us jobs from the you know bureau of labor and okay so that's a hundred and forty three million different jobs in the us economy and then each the size of the square is how big of a how big of a part of the us economy that job is so you could see like registered nurses there's three point four million registered nurses in the united states construction laborers there's one point six million secretary so it's percentage by size by quantity of workers popularity of because it says like cashier is a huge percentage of that which is insane so cashier take three point two million jobs that's wild that's cool okay correct and so then why is what is green and red look a stock market truck so basically then he then had he took he told ai to estimate the likelihood that this job is gonna disappear based on the capabilities of ai so based on what the job does and then what ai can do how disruptive is this job how at risk is this job so for example construction laborers are green because they're more in the safe category from ai because ai today can't do what those people do but customer service is in red obviously and and so he went through every job in the us market and then you could sort of almost see like how how turbulent will this be for the labor market because you got how much red are you gonna see on the screen because if it's gonna really disrupt a very a very small niche job that's not that big of a deal but if it's gonna just disrupt you know secretaries and admin cashier i'm surprised waiters and waitress here high school teachers i'm surprised that one's there in red kindergarten elementary i can have in an orange state here have insane what and then he has a caveat so he says caveat on digital exposure so we basically oh let me just read the whole thing so we said the digital ai exposure option is one example it estimates how much of current ai which is primarily digital will reshape the occupation but you could do this for any other type of thing like offshore risk etcetera and then and then he includes even the prompt here it's just is a cool little hack project by him on the side and he's like you know here's there's obviously a bunch of caveats which is he's like software developers scored really high while some people believe well dude ai is doing all the coding that what does that mean and he's basically saying he says because ai transforms the work but the demand for software is gonna grow as each developer becomes more productive the score does not account for demand elasticity late in demand regulatory barriers or social preferences for human workers that'd be like kindergarten teachers for example many high high exposure jobs will be reshaped and not replaced so it's not the red doesn't mean replaced but it does mean reshaped he did another thing that was pretty crazy he created a auto ai researcher that runs all night so he basically created an ai that he explicitly programmed to not look for human feedback so it's like a recur loop so it's like general hypothesis do research create an output evaluate your own output give yourself the next direction and go again and give yourself the next direction go again give it it just runs in the background all night just doing its own research now it's called auto researcher which is really how ai is he like the the big leaps from ai are gonna come when ai programs the next leap have you become the person where so like my friday and saturday nights i'm like i wanna learn this stuff this is so exciting i'm so locked in i love this like it could be small stuff like i don't need to use tableau anymore you know like i just make my own dashboards in notion and i created a script to auto update it and like just all these things where i feel like i have super powers yeah i feel like i have super powers but i'm like their early you know in spider man when he like realizes he could shoot webs but like really all he's doing is just shoot he's like he's like summon the coke can to him it's like i could just get up but or i could just web it to myself i did have to get up for my bed like that's kinda of what i'm doing i'm doing a lot of stuff that feels cool to me it feels like a superpower but like does any of it matter right now no like still the all the useful stuff is just chat with chat with chat with chat with club and i've done like really simple stuff where like i'll be like make twenty landing pages in hubspot for when people search x y and z that are related to my company that's a very mono monopoly boring thing that i normally would have had to do by hand and it just made it all in five minutes and this is for a lot of people listening the agency business model just got really interesting now like historically agencies are like a pain in the ass but they're actually pretty amazing because you don't need to test if there's demand for an agency right everyone needs an agency every business hires a lot of agencies you you go through a lot because you don't particularly like them but running an agency has always been a huge pain in the ass regardless of how great of an agency it is but now it's significantly different i think that eight if you own an agency i think you could take the path of like my business is over or we could take the path of like my multiples are gonna go up a significant amount my buddy ram romaine sent this blog post to just me and band like a maybe a year or two years ago and he it was called service as a software so instead of software as a service service as a software and he basically had this thesis he's like service businesses have historically had lower lower margins and lower multiples because two things one because it required so many people to do the gross margins were worse and two because it required nice skilled people you couldn't scale it the way you can piece of code that can just keep running you know anywhere in the world you know whether one person using that code or ten million dollars usually doesn't really matter and he was like ai seems to have changed this and he kind of he called this early and he was like now services businesses are gonna have high gross margins like seventy five percent gross margins instead of like fifty forty percent gross margins and he's like the reason why is because obviously ai is gonna make the service company more efficient with one person you could do what you know four five six seven people were doing before and then the second thing is that the more people have software like service is gonna be become more rare it's gonna become more like it's gonna become the harder thing to get and in addition to that you have so not only does it have the higher multiple but also it'll scale better right because if you're using the more the more internal software you have the more clients you might be able to serve and so you you get the scalability and you get the margins and so he had this idea and this is exactly what we're saying when we're talking to a bunch of pe folks and they've all basically shifted budget away from buying saas to buying service companies and they value the service companies like they used to value software companies which is kinda crazy as a shift to make for somebody who like ingrained in my mind that like you know software is the thing and services are bad you know and he was he was on hundred percent right alright today's sponsor is a company that i used that i actually built a company on that i sold for millions of dollars and it took me sent zero upfront capital we had one employee and those are the types of business i love i love lightweight businesses things that don't require a lot of capital don't require a lot of employees and you can just get them off the ground quickly and 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that we that i made alright so i think i've told you this before but my brother who's come on the podcast before his name's s he he is one of the biggest owners of retail shopping centers in the country he owes i don't know like so i don't know what the number is but like maybe like you know a couple million square feet of real estate of retail shopping centers in the country probably one of the top five to ten operators so but he you know it's like a blue collar type of business as in like you don't know his job is he does a lot of construction he does a lot of leasing with brick and mortar businesses and so he's not hugely exposed to ai so he but he joined like tiger twenty one or something like that who's at a meeting and he and there were he's like dude was all about ai you he's like i feel like i gotta like know more about ai he's like it seems like nina i'm i kinda know about it but i gotta know more you know like seems like i'm probably under investing in this so last night i just did i did a little demo for him so i basically went into claude and i just go i'm a regional retail shopping center owner this is my business tell me ten ways i should be using ai so it gives me ten ways so it's like here's ten things you could do a retail expansion and contraction tracker okay so like you know your tenants are these retailers you could scrape earnings calls ten k press releases trade publications and flag which stores are opening more locations which ones are closing locations and that would create a hit list for your team to go call those tenants and base be like top of mind for them as they look for new locations lease expiration you have all these leases right if you have let's call it fifty centers that you own and each center has thirty tenants now you have a hundred and fifty tenants that you would have each one has a unique lease on it the unique timetable you need to know who it's expiring and win just upload all of it to a folder and it'll tell you what is expiring when it'll give you notifications and it'll cross reference that with their public announcements so you know hey they had a hot quarter you know go and look for an expansion of that lease they're contracting that's gonna be at risk you should start thinking about possible new tenants to put in and it gave a list of like you know ten ten different things and then i just said cool give me the prompt to to build this to build number one that like expansion tracker so check this out so that i go and i basically take that prompt i throw it into the new i wanted to try the new complexity computer i don't know if you played with this at all but computer just open club but it's like open club but in there like sandbox you less technical work to start but it's like in their environment so it built it so check this out so it's basically like check this out it's just just a mask up no this is like an active live website now that you can use so i built not his data or this is his data but this is not yeah his data this i just said hey here's seven states that i operate a lot in texas nevada in new mexico you utah oh got it so just and then i didn't tell anything else hey we wait they said okay dollar general is one of your what is it retailer that's expanding you know they're account they're gonna do fit four hundred fifty new stores and then you click in and it says they've they plan to many new stores for twenty twenty six they're gonna do for four thousand remodel twenty relocation they currently have twenty thousand stores here's where they're likely to be expanding here's the quote from the source from the ceo talking about what they're what they're gonna do right crazy let's go to contracting you know walgreens they're planning to close a hundred stores they've already closed five hundreds since twenty twenty four you know here's like a macy's one here's whatever you know different different different retailers and how they're doing and then you're like okay cool now i basically have a hit list of retailers that i can basically have my team focus more attention on less attention on in terms of getting new leases done or forecasting and anticipating and be proactive about potential vacancies i might have in my centers in the future what say when he saw that he was like hey can we should we do a call today and he's like kinda like what the hell just happened like i just need to talk to somebody to talk to somebody like i need to see what the he's he was like i'm on chad gp it seems like i should be using some other things you he'd tell me what these are now and i'm like yeah you know because i've invested millions of dollars with him and so i'm like yeah like i can just show you a couple of things that i think are gonna like you know today it's all manual right everything is manual everything is gut everything is experienced but you can product ties a lot of that and turn it into you know competitive advantage for yourself the problem is turning it into a competitive advantage so it's getting someone like him who's smart and successful but not well versed and being like oh my god like everyone feels the same amount of doom and overwhelm they're they're like i know this is important i don't know the first place where to turn to in order to get help you know you and i have twitter we can just tweet out who knows how to do blank or is doing blank worth it but if you are doesn't matter how successful you are but if you're just a guy and you're not locked into this industry or like surrounded by nerds i don't even know where you would start well yeah like i think you have to you have to figure out some proportional investment of education and time to work on this whether it's you know once a week or you do three weeks or you hire a consultant or you do whatever you're gonna do it's one of the reasons i think the biggest opportunity right now like the obvious no brainer thing that anybody who hasn't made it that wants to make it in life needs to do today is to basically go sell ai transformation so what do you you go find business owners and operators and you go you become an ai expert in your nights and weekends basically and then you go to them and you sell a no risk offer to them which is that i will come and i'll find ways i i will come and do an audit and basically figure out how i can use ai to improve your business and then you go and you do an audit it and you try to figure out how to make improve their business you sell them the solution the implementation of it hey this is what i think ai i could do for you i'll do it for you if you pay me this amount and here's the value it's gonna drive for you and then you do it once with let's say you do it with one dentist then you go do it with fifty more dentists and you can literally make millions of dollars doing just that blueprint that is the blueprint like if you remember when social media marketing agency became a thing there's was this acronym acronym mma and it became just like business in a box that anybody could open up which was social media is a big deal businesses today don't really understand how to use it they're using it in their personal life but they're not using it for their business well anybody in any local cal any niche can create a social media marketing agency and you could basically go to these business owners and say hey i'll run your social media for you because they don't know how to do it they know they should do it and you can bridge that gap and that became the business in a box well the what is the business in a box today it's going and selling hey i'm gonna use ai to improve your business and you go do that and you should be doing that all around the country over the next couple weeks when when it's just uni and i wanna do a an episode on how to develop good taste because what we're seeing online is people saying now that building things is not important anymore because you have a machine that can build it for you the next most important thing now is how to have good taste and i have found that the piece of advice to be incredibly unhelpful because what is the definition of good taste and how do you develop it and i've been working really hard on defining it and i think that we're we can see this whole like i think that there's an interesting opportunity where you can teach people how to develop good taste because i believe you can right and i wanna do a whole episode on how to define what does good taste mean because i believe there's an objective definition to it which is knowing and speaking the the desire language of the of the the people or thing that you wanna speak about and then how you learn that language i'm i'm all in i love that i think that's just that that would be super fun to do and i think like you said timely and necessary and i think most people would agree with the premise and that like taste matters it's pretty hard to disagree distribute with that taste ever didn't matter now matters more right because if ai can produce more stuff and makes it easier than ever to make things well taste matters even more then right because taste is the is the discernment it's the decision between good and bad and so yeah obviously it matters more but i think it's like these these other soft skills that people don't even think of as skills meaning you to sort of think you have a certain amount of it and it can't really grow like any other skills when it's like well no if it's a skill that means it could be practiced it could be learned it could be improved so if it's a skill then that means the only question is how i have that answer and so i will reveal it today so i've been thinking lot about this coincidentally i've been thinking about it for about two years on how to like learn good taste because i don't think i particularly have good taste but i've tried to develop it alright down alright that's it that's the ai news we wanted to react to today sam 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