The App That’ll Be Bigger Than TikTok

the last night i downloaded an app that blew my mind and it's called so and i don't say that casually i'm not trying to be a ai thought leader who's like holy crap the new model is so and unbelievable they just changed the game no no this app was weird and weird in a way that i haven't like hasn't settled yet i feel like i could rule the world i know i could be what i want to from at all in it like a day off on a goal less travel ever so basically open a the makers of chad gp have released a new app called so and when you hear it the i think the first reaction is a big eye role it's a feed like tiktok but hey all the videos are made ai you don't have to worry about like this is a fake video they're all fake videos okay and so the initial reaction from the smart guy community was like literally like oh good pure ai s in fact there were some great tweets about this that i just wanna call out for humor and excellence chris bak had a great one he goes sam alt you know open ai we're gonna cure brain cancer opening today we created brain cancer like like the worst thing you could do is just a feed of ai ai slump basically but when you go in it's not ai i think that's a i think that's a thing that gets you cool points on the internet i don't think it's what's going on here and i think you're gonna be on the wrong side of history if you try to resist this and so you open up the app the way it works is like chat g you can type anything and it's gonna create an video but the very first thing it does the camera's on and this is not like any onboarding i've ever done in any other app the camera's on and it says say these three numbers out loud you're like alright twelve seventy four eighty eight it's like cool stole your voice got it like what it's like yeah we can use ai i do your voice from those three numbers got it and it's like hey just look to the right real quick there's something over there you look over to the right it's like got your face alright now we could put with those two little actions you sang three numbers are you look looking at the camera and they're looking to the side it now can create recreate your face i didn't mine last night in bed i made one that said i made a few actually the first one was put me in a ralph lauren ad which is hilarious but the really shocking one i said make it look like i have a ponytail and let me sorry share that tail one it's scary yeah let it grow out over the last year it feels completely different but i kinda like it it's easy enough to keep in shape just to rinse and some conditioner and let it do its thing i when working your need out of my face and just pull it back like this simple feels good so this app is unbelievable i did one where i said me ding dong ditching somebody used like the ring camera footage and then i car away to hide alright here we go quick knock and i'm out perfect how does it know your height and stuff it just inferred my entire body from my face which is disappointing in its own way that looks real yeah and so okay so you could do it for yourself now watch this one i just sent you could also use other people if they let you so this is so sam alt the you know the founder of opening eye he's like available to be used so you just if you just tag like you just like me talking to sam alt or whatever but in this case somebody was like they used sam alt and they were making fun of the idea of the ai slot have you seen this one are my pig enjoying their swap this is crazy this is one hundred percent i think better than tiktok actually i think it's better than tiktok and it's it's this is v one i this a v so go so there's a couple of kind of so i think this is gonna be here are a couple of predictions i think there's gonna be the most downloaded app in the history of the world it'll in a short period of time so i think it'll be like the fastest to get to a hundred million downloads because i think it'll happen in like like right now it's gated by you need an invite code but as soon as they open that gate or if they open that gate in in a short order this thing would get you know a hundred million plus downloads very very quickly to the app store last night and i just clicked download and worked i didn't know you had same other people couldn't do that they all needed they would hit a wall that said you need an invite code because i was i was like dude have you seen this i texting people and they were like i can't get in and i was like i didn't have a code i don't know why i got in another student i'm not sure so that's my first prediction second prediction is i think this opens the flood gates of something that matt m talked about on our podcast so i did a episode with matt about ai matt's totally like he's so far down the rabbit hole i'm like matt it's like matt matt matt it's like echoing going down the rabbit hole and he was talking about ai and he goes the crazy thing about ai is we are so early and i don't mean in just in terms of how smart it's gonna be we're so early because every ai tool right now is single player he's like chad is just a tool you use yourself and same thing with the image creators and same thing with all almost all of the tools are still single player but the internet has showed us that like all the most powerful apps they're multiplayer the things you do with other people whether it was facebook and social networking whether it was uber connecting you with drivers or airbnb connecting with other people slack where you chat with your teammates like it's crazy that none of the ai tools are really multiplayer today and so he's like i'm waiting for that like that's the next wave that's the big thing this is one of the first ai ai native things where i'm like oh yeah i'm gonna be using this with other other people like last night me and my friends were basically like creating videos of each other making each other laugh it was like so easy just to do that back and forth and get there you know you get a tag you got tagged somebody made a video of you it's like do i have to go look at that i can't not look at that like so hey here somebody holds baby i gotta look at this video somebody made of me right it's like one of the most like strong poles and if if you remember one of the big growth levers for facebook was when they introduced friend photo tagging so they made it super easy word not just you could upload photos that's a solar player experience but when you could just click on somebody in the picture and write their name and then you would get an email whether you use facebook or not that would say sean just uploaded a photo and tagged you in and you're like oh i gotta go see what this picture is like that's out there for everybody to see that created this insane growth loop for for facebook i think that's what's gonna happen with this when you lived in china did you were i forget what they column but what are the apps that are like is i think it's whatsapp is one of them whether they're like an everything app where wechat apps wechat so like with the wechat it's it's hard to understand in america but they call it everything app because you could like you chat with your buddies you order groceries and you send money like what is that right you pay your electricity bill you could buy furniture you do anything you want on the app so i downloaded this thing or i send up for chad pro or whatever the most expensive one is because they have the student thing called pulse have you used pulse dude no but i i love this idea i haven't used it i can can anybody just turn this on you you have to pay money so it's expensive it's i think it's one or two hundred dollars a month but yeah basically like i tell it what i'm into or it gets to know me and every day when i wake up now now me i'm i'm on chat all day any anyway now in the morning i pull up pulse and it's sort of like my news feed except it's all tailored for me so like i'll tell it i'm interested i'm reading this particular book that interests me and i see like relevant articles that it has written so it's it's the journalist and it's so it's like you know apple's news feed except it's also the journalists or like i'm into like greek philosophy right now and like i'm seeing like it's telling me about philosophy tailored towards me or like youtube like you know we're trying to like learn more about youtube it's saying like like i wanna learn how to get more popular be better at storytelling or whatever on youtube like i wanna like perfect that craft a bit more it writes articles based off of the conversations that i've had with it so when i we do this podcast we'll use chat to research and come up with story ideas it's giving me daily articles based off that which is insane and so like they should've have just called this ben levy because this is what ben levy does ben ben gets to know you he knows what your interest are what your dreams are he knows what you're what you're working on right now and he'll every day he'll just text you useful interesting things and celebrate your success and like help hey here's a tweet i saw that's relevant to the thing you're talking about hey here's an article that talks about how to do that thing you you're were talking about now ben has could be with ai because doing that and this is the first example of a super app now i'm starting to get it where i'm like everything's going to be on here and frankly like i'm a free market guy this is scary this is like every quarter i'm like okay now i am a little bit more fearful what's gonna happen in five years because how is this company not gonna take over the world that'd be the biggest company the way that like i'm using it already and the why is that something you're fearful of there there is always a biggest company on ours why is it scary that it would be open ai because i think it's potentially gonna be significantly larger than every company ever and we'll know more about me like well will it it will be ubiquitous ubiquitous in more ways than it has ever been you know like nvidia is the third largest company in the world i don't particularly interact with that every day and i don't know if it knows anything that it could like ruin and right ruin my life but now open ai does i just think that open ai is gonna be like the combination of facebook google every news company ever and then like five of the companies combined into one i wanna talk about this for saying this is pretty fascinating so i sent this to my sister sent at her one of these videos she was like oh what ai sean what is this and i'm like oh the makers of chat now have this app you can make any video about anything using anyone and you just use your face and then they just do it and i was and she's like oh my god being your sister so tiring you have so many cool things that i now need to like know of and like i was just getting settled in this couch of life here and now i have to get up and go do things and like what is this and i feel that i actually feel that in a big way right you feel exhausted yeah because like even when you talk about pulse it's like oh another game changing thing i need to go learn do try oh my god am i irrelevant now is it my about am i super powerful or irrelevant i can't tell so i think there's there's that angle which is i think some people feel exhausted by the rate of change and i don't know what to tell you it's like it's like saying i'm so it's like on survivor when they're like i'm so cold it's like well you still got thirty more days out here and it's gonna keep raining i don't know what you're gonna do just you sleep every night in the rain now that's what happened you're gonna be drained you just summed it up perfectly am i now super powerful or i irrelevant i don't know what yeah because dude i mean i i'm looking at this thing like oh cool so content creation everybody can just do it easily interesting hi you know i was watching this interview with steve bartlett and steve as is podcast called da the ceo and i think it's basically like the second biggest podcast in the world right now it's pretty pretty insane he was talking and he was like you know he's sort of like i he you're either the hunter or the hunt it was like you are either gonna get disrupted or you're gonna be the one doing the disrupting he's talking about for his own business he's like yes so i have a team that's just working on ai podcasting so they're making like ai steve or ai i guess and then we're creating all ai podcasts and he's like we are testing them with ad spend to see do people watch the ai podcast as much as they watched the no guys he goes before it was like no it was really bad he goes now as bad as it sounds like the average watch time is the same on the ai podcast versus the human podcast he's like so that's gonna be a thing and i'm like i don't even know if that's true i don't know if i believe that i don't know where that is i don't know what he's exactly saying just that idea of like oh so like again if i'm a content creator maybe i'm just irrelevant at the stage like who knows maybe maybe i'll be completely obsolete or maybe i'm ten times more powerful right there's two different perspectives so i think there's an exhausting reaction to it i think another reaction is sort of the dystopian of like you y this is all too powerful and you guys are getting way too powerful when it took my face and my voice in three seconds and now like if i you know if if i toggle the button on you can make a video of me doing anything saying anything and if you use chad you could just upload all of my writing ever in all of the transcripts of this podcast and you could be like hey let me just have sean as my coach and i don't get paid for that that's just like a thing that people can do like this is all like a little insane right and it's all quite powerful and some people don't trust him all so i think there's that dystopian of like you know where is the world going do i want this sort of all powerful technology of this company to be all powerful i think there's that fear too and i think there's the third reaction which is the one i'm trying to lean into which is just be curious go how fun go play wow what an amazing time to be alive that like you're seeing the birth of this thing and you get to ride these waves and like the whole world's gonna change hopefully for the better and you can kinda impact that that i think is the only useful reaction of the three alright guys here's the thing about side hustle everyone wants one but most people over think about it and they never actually launch anything but because of ai you can go from my idea to your first sale in only seven days my old company the hustle they just dropped an ai side hustle crash course basically what the hustle did was they looked at things that me and sean and hubspot cmo k founder they look at stuff that we said and they broke it all down into simple bite sized steps which means you're gonna get a guide that gives you everything you need to launch a side hustle without any of the guest work so you can get it right now you can scan the qr code or click the link in the description now back to the show dude what's gonna happen in the next couple years is pal here it's gonna we're all just gonna be in a pal cage you know like cooper just gonna be in a pal cage and sam hoffman is gonna be throwing stuff at us like our slot that we have to eat a cage and this is just how it's going to be i i do think the haves and the have not it's just gonna separate even further so can i tell you some of some of the more positive uplifting exciting versions of this so i think learning and education is getting way better there's a few examples of like people who are making ai tutors that are incredible we've talked about alpha school google just released this thing called like for i was call like personalized learning where you could basically tell out what you wanna know and then it just like develops this incredibly personalized curriculum for you and feeds takes you down that path which is really cool and i think the idea of like just like you have a a therapist or we talked about a a you know a therapist in your pocket a sponsored your pocket you're also gonna have socrates in your pocket what's it called you know google sucks at naming everything so they're like google learning and development trees it's like i don't know what i don't know what his called something and all these companies just they name their thing like maps like it's just like one it's like that it's like this is ava yeah eva you're your cute friend who's all knowing hey ava i want you all you have to do is out in public just say hey ava it's like i don't wanna say hey eva in public you know hey how much is that that house worth i just like that's what i'm gonna be saying i dave does she have only fans thanks ava while your glasses are on yeah hey can you hold still for a second yeah eva real cool part hey can you turn this i'm out of range hold on we get closer your face do you ever a go like you ever see like a crime and i'm like like whatever i see a police officer doing something i just him i'm just like sara let's go go like i'm just like like hey could you guys yeah i just overestimate myself but you guys need to hand any could you guys explain what's going on like what did he do what did he do i'm just like i'm just like shameless i'll would just go to someone like could you give me a play by dude by the way that's one of the best sore prompts is use body cam footage to show me doing x and it's a car body cam that's falling you it's okay let me tell you a story and i wanna ask you a question i was with someone recently this past week weekend and we were watching a baseball game and in between each inning he would like look on his phone and like start mess around and doing stuff and then during the game i would hear like c or like a like a buzzer a buzzer noise and i was like after four innings i was like what are you doing and he was like oh i'm betting like three dollars or five dollars between each inning on what's gonna happen over the next inning and i was like what wait talk about he's like well have this app where like it uses ai somehow and it like makes you it comes up with different micro bets that you can bet throughout the game and i was like you do you do this all the time like what's a situation he's like oh like literally every time i watch sports i do so know i said how much do you watch sports he like go day i was like wait is this a thing and i went and like talk to like ten other people in this room and was like tell me do you do this do you do this do you do this in almost every single person in the room they if it was a man they did it if it was a woman they're like my brother or a husband or boyfriend does it right well if you watch any sport now like every ad is basically like the sponsor of every podcast is you know fan draft kings and then if you watched games like you know the leagues used to ban this they didn't want gambling as a part of it but now they basically realize like that's our premium sponsor and so they're like heavily using it but it's funny because like there's been all these situations i don't know if you've seen where players are caught there was probably like five notable thing not five notable cases of this last year across like nba and f nfl let's say and so like one guy for example you know he owed a bunch of people money owed like a car dealer money and his jewelry guy money and whatever and then they went back and they looked at like a pattern of his games and they're like like that's weird that he didn't shoot the ball there at the end of the game or like you it just last week even this football player there the quarterback but they were winning the quarterback wanted to run out the clock so they're just trying to hold the ball and so they he took the snap and then to make sure that he used all of the clock he just started running backwards which you would never do normally if you wouldn't run backwards but he's like cool i need the seven seconds to expire he ran all the way backwards into the end zone and took a safety so a two point swing to the other team which didn't matter they were up by seven anyways but the line was six and so it went from a win to a loss now he wasn't cheating but like the gamble you know you get these guys get like death threats and their dms every day now because they're like dude you messed up my par like you messed up my over under like piece of shit blah and they just dig it like harassed so the players don't really like it who are you know just trying to play the game because like all of a sudden people take it uber uber personally if they have a bad game or if they missed that shot or if they scored one extra time or didn't score one extra time when they could have swung the line you know but by the way there's another angle to this that's kind of fascinating in the sort of sports betting murder so i don't know if you've seen lately but there's was this great tweet where it showed robinhood hood stock going like this and draft king's stock going the exact opposite way in the same time frame sports betting which is like a pretty regulated thing like i can't do it out of california for example right i think you can do it in texas but i can't do it there i don't know what states there thirty states in america allow it yeah and it started with like just new jersey and then it's michigan and then it's been expanding since then but it's a pretty regulated thing and but but all these other apps now do sports betting but they call it prediction markets and prediction markets are legal so robinhood now has sports betting in its app even though not not a casino you could just go in robinhood it right now and bet on sports you could do it on culture you could do it on poly market you could do it on all these prediction market sites and their volume is like exploding because they now added basically sports wage because there's like a technical loophole in sports betting you're like okay yeah here's the the the distinction so sports betting you're wage directing on the outcome of the game you know a hundred dollars on the warriors to win so this is regulated under us gambling laws by the state gaming commissions prediction markets are seen as a financial market where you're trading the future like trading features of stocks not a bet so you are buying and selling shares of an outcome that's insane don't know why that's any different but it's basically calls it like it's almost like a a commodity basically so you're so all these apps were able to add it as prediction markets rather than sports betting and so now it's now it's in more places than it was before and it's easier to access than it was before listen up the old playbook is slowing you down ai broke the funnel loop 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though i did well you know i i don't like gambling at all but i think that there's a there's and i don't particularly like outlaw stuff but i think that there's a difference between like going to a casino and that being your night out i still don't think it's great but i think that it's different than what i've experienced in my short amount of time being around guys like betting three dollars every game and having draft king's account manager calling you and being like hey do you want a five hundred dollar credit to try this new bet like like right you know it's a little bit more isolated and and so it's it's it's it's it's strange to me to see this i talked to this guy go to birch health dot com so b i r c h e s so birch health dot com this company they just raised twenty million dollars from general catalysts and kevin ryan from ali court i i don't know this guy at all and i've got no involvement or anything i just thought it was cool but it's a company that raised twenty million dollars and their whole thing is helping particularly young men get cured or get help from gambling addiction and the reason i thought this was interesting is i brought this up about three years ago where i was like i'm shocked that there's not more alternatives to alcohol anonymous because alcohol anonymous says a massive it's it's not a business but it's a massive organization and one of the reasons now that i run a community in in real life community is that i realized that alcohol anonymous is all based around you and like twenty other alcoholic where you're sharing and like the connection is what matters and doing that online it doesn't really solve the problem the same way that doing it in real life and so that's one of the reason why there has been alternative however with the rise of better help and like all these like telehealth health psychiatrists or whatever which i've done and i've tried like it does actually help solve the problem i don't know if it does it as well or or not i don't i don't know the research behind there but it definitely like helped it it it it is a fine alternative to in real life therapy and i saw that these guys had just raised money i think he said they're only two years old they grew like five in the last year and i was reading the new york times about this online betting it said sixty percent of guys between eighteen and twenty two do sports betting and are she in a large percentage of are not problematic gambler i'm like oh this company gotta take over the world like this is like now like i would seeking earlier like years ago for like an alcohol anonymous alternative is like an interesting business i could do good in the world this birch health and i'm sure there's competitors it's a very interesting business that i think could take off someone on the pod brought this up a long time ago they were talking about how like physical centers basically they were like oh you could repurpose like i forgot what it was there was some retail concept that it was just dying like a blockbuster type of thing and they were talking about how their prediction their idea that they brought on the pod was to repurpose those for gambling addiction they're like oh at that time there wasn't even the sport the prediction markets it was just daily fantasy and they were like you know there's there's gonna be a big need for this can i tell you about a m was doing something really cool yes alright so there's a guy who i think he this is the pod dm me and he's got a very interesting app so if you go to sunflower sober dot com okay that's cool check this out so this guy kobe created this app called sunflower sober and it's a ai based version of what do they call like a sponsor yeah so i think i don't know exactly how a works i can tell you i could tell you you i could tell you you did you go yeah were you a remember i was a member of aa yeah so what did you just tell me your experience so you go to you went to a physical place and was like hi i'm sam and i have a great newsletter she's just subscribed to you also i have a problem like what it just this is pre newsletter but basically i think before i met you like i was like i didn't make a lot of money and i was like i don't have lot of money to like go to rehab or anything this i need help and i went and like googled aa near me and i lived in betrayal hill and i go to a meeting and there's thirty or twenty of you sitting around in a circle and they're famous for having everyone smoked six because that's like when you get off alcohol you like your your addiction transfers like a new thing okay and so there's everyone smoke at six and everyone drink it by coffee at like eight pm at night and you basically you go around the room and you say your name and your issue which is basically i'm i'm gonna i'll call can and i have been sober or i haven't been sober for this long and you tell your story and you don't have to share if you don't wanna share it but and after a certain amount of time you get a sponsor which is someone who you're supposed to rely on and you're supposed to call and you say like i'm at this party and like i'm feeling like i'm being tempted right now i don't feel great or i screwed up like can you help me you're supposed to like go above and beyond for this person and that's how you pay it forward in the community right and that's free all of that's free or you pay hey it's free a free the sponsor things free it's just a community of people helping each other yeah and there's a a weird story about it so there's a phrase so have you heard the phrase are you friend of bill that's the secret phrase so like are you friends friends a bill just gave it out it's not really like that secret but are you are you friends with bill that means like are you n a yeah because i believe the founder is named bill w they say are you friend of bill w the founder of about calls dominic anonymous was this guy named bill w and he started at in nineteen thirty five and he's got this crazy story where he was trying to overcome alcohol addiction and he and he created this twelve step program for himself but he's a wild character where like he like took a lot of lsd to help him like overcome his addiction and it's a whole like cowboy story behind his guy but the the phrase in aa it's a secret phrase it's you you friends to bill w okay that's amazing so check this out so this guy makes this app and he's like he basically uses ai to do this so he's like okay you can go to rehab and can go to therapy you can but like what if in your pocket was and always on helpful and you know compassionate non judgmental person who's there to you know who's there to help someone to talk to and it's not just for i think he started it i think he had maybe in his family like somebody who had alcoholism and then but it's not gonna be just for alcohol like it'll be for gambling it'll be for any type of addiction and this app is kind of exploding so in the last six months it basically went from zero to a hundred thousand users so like look at this revenue ramp like to you know get getting getting to you know fifty thousand plus in monthly recurring revenue from subscriptions and what's interesting is that people pay you know whatever some low like dollar a month plan and this is gonna happen in therapy and any other any field where somebody's charging you you know a hundred dollars an hour or plus you're gonna suddenly be able to pay nine dollars a month and have unlimited access to that level of you you know to that it won't be a human but the ai might you know in some cases might be better because again non judgmental always available you know infinitely patient that sort of thing and in some ways it might be worse you might think add to ai i'm not accountable to this person in the same way not not sure exactly how this complaint up but very interested and he's grown it and if you go look on reddit people are talking about this it's a very big market for this and one of the things that this business does where where some of the revenue can come from is he passes the leads on to like anybody who's looking for like if you're looking for let's say like a more clinical solution because i think there's like drugs that will help you as well if you're the right if that's the right treatment for you and so you can actually and you know he can he might be able to go vertical so he might be able to start his own clinic underneath and all of a sudden you have this kind of either free or you know ten twenty bucks a month type of consumer who suddenly is worth ten times as much to you as a customer and so he's passing you know you know hundreds of leads a month to these tele clinics who are looking to you know speak to a human slash like be able to have you know medicine for for for their addictions this is pretty cool you know what's crazy is alcohol amongst young guys is like plummeted i'll like people drinking like when when you and i were at college like it was like wednesday thursday friday saturday like that's that's drinking nights or like or you know something like crazy like that i young guys do not do this nearly as much which is good have you seen them twenty one jump street yeah you're like daily when they go back to school and they're trying to be cool and they're basically like you know they're like twenty nine or whatever new one bowling for first they go with like one one strap on the backpack right like this is like all these like little things are like we're cool then but they're not cool now and they're like punk a kid try to like make themselves cool like y that's not cool man it's bullying they're like gay and like would be so insensitive exactly and so they're like well like shit's changed and that's that's kind of what the drinking culture you know from what from what i read i don't know it's actually true i don't know if you go to college campuses and they're all dry now but like it it does seem like it's much less than it was when we were in college you know a lot of years ago it's way less is this sunflower sober are they did they raise funding yeah they raise funding so i was at invest i think there's is gonna be a very successful company that doesn't always make it a great investment because valuation matters a lot but i think an app like this i think you know the way that calm and the head space came in and did something on an app they did meditation on an app something that was previously kind of like a a little bit of a touchy feely sort of thing that you did offline and they made it like a daily habit you know daily ritual in your pocket i think that basically getting off your addictions whether it's porn whether it's gambling whether it's alcohol whether it's we you know whatever it is there's there's plenty of things that screens you know just did just social media there's a bunch of things that you could be addicted to nowadays and i think help people get off that is gonna be a bit pretty big deal have you been to therapy i have like an executive coach i don't if that would count there i would say probably no i mean cousins have you used had do you think that chat g could potentially change or have you used chat g to supplement and or replace an executive coach or a therapist definitely on the executive coach i on the therapies i mean i never went to there i don't even know what you would what i would say i'd be like hey like yeah like life pretty i i don't even know what i would go into so i don't even have the skills to like it's kinda like lost when they find the hatch and they're like how do get in and i'm like i don't know it's like that's my emotions they're the hatch and i have no idea how to get into it i don't even know what the problem i don't even know what i'm supposed to say what i'm supposed to do it's a foreign language to me i have used it as a like for example it'd be like i'm mad at my wife because of this reason like can you help me make sense of this like it am i wrong is she wrong why am angry like right help me like figure out why pissed off or like this person wrote me this email help me like figure out how not to react in a negative way and get what i want still right i have found that it has helped me tremendously chad like crazy amounts yeah it's really good really really good and i think the ai is only getting better and so using ai to do these things that humans we're we're otherwise doing whether it's therapy or you know your sponsor other other things i think is gonna help expand access to more people you know who otherwise maybe they didn't maybe they didn't seek it out because they felt embarrassed maybe it was too expensive maybe they live in some random in on on earth where that's not as common you know they don't want they don't have it available in procure a hill where you're living at the time right like there's this sort of like there's like multiple ten x multiple you know sort of order of magnitude jumps you can get when she just look at those those three variables alone cost access and and sort of the taboo nature of it hey quick message here because you know that feeling when you send a wire and it actually works no friction well i've used mercury for years now and let me tell you it just works and that's why i use it for not one not two but eight of my companies from credit cards to invoices i have everything in one place there's no junky dashboard i've never told please please visit a local bank branch none of that tom fu and a few months ago i landed a big client the first thing i did i sent them a clean branded invoice boom deal close cash in the door that's the kind of banking experience i want and that's why i use mercury so if you're running a startup and you want making that feels like it's built in this century well go to mercury dot com and get started in minutes mercury is a financial technology company not a bank bank the services are provided through choice financial group call man a and evolve bank trust members fdic so i saw something on i saw something that like sorta of got passed up on that i thought was amazing okay so there's a podcast called acquired we've had them on here they're amazing they're awesome they were talking to toby toby i actually don't know toby last name toby is the ceo luke key what what is it luke key i think he's the ceo shopify which is you know like the tenth or eighteenth or t largest company in america or in the world huge thing and he made this small comment so toby is a guy who we've had his partner on before and he kind of explained him a little i know what you're about to say because it was unbelievable what he said it was unbelievable i was like guys deck guy i just said something insane over there are we just moving on i guess what's happening so basically he's like this guy told i gotta at the stage a little bit he's a nerds nerd like he's like he's like all about this and so he tells a story where he very casually mentions well about twenty years ago about fifteen years ago i created this program where it logged every letter i ever tell on my machine and you know when someone calls a computer machine that they're like the shit he was to tell yeah that's the patel he goes i created this program that looks at every single letter i've ever typed in my keyboard and then every ten minutes it automatically takes a picture of my screen and there's a screenshot and i have an archive now of roughly fifteen years of every single letter and ten minute screenshots and like he just mentioned it like as he was getting to another story where he was like and what and what i noticed when i was building this program is x why and was like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa reverse right and so i'm like i want that give me that and so for for context i think shopify is probably fifteen years old and so basically the whole founding of a shopify he has shown you could see like exactly how he how he feels there's just one book where it was like i forget to title of the book but the premise is like google knows more about you than anything else because you do whenever you type in google something that's when you're saying your real feelings so now in this case when you're when we're talking to chat that's where we say a real feelings not what we're saying and telling people and this guy has all of it right there and so we could see i just a i think it's amazing i wanna like see this and b i wanna do this for myself i wanna like log everything i've ever done so i can look back after years and have an archive of like seeing my personal development and things like that i think it's so cool what did you think when you saw this i mean like you i thought that was one of the most just sort of like what what what did you just say you did that you actually did that and i was like wow what also forward thinking thing to do because now in the world of ai it's all about data and this guy might have the best dataset set that you would want to create like a very very the best data for himself yeah because if he wants to create ai that thinks like him we'll guess what he logged every keys stroke and took a screenshot of his screen every ten seconds so you knew exactly what he's doing it made me think of i don't know if you've heard people talk about meditations by marcus aurelius of course and like the the remarkable thing about meditations is like here's the guy who was the ruler of the roman empire and which was the most powerful empire in the world so here's the most powerful man on earth and then he wrote in his diary every night he never thought it would get he never planned to publish this so it's his true inner thoughts and then we sort of like you know like a little brother jacked his diary and you know publish it for the whole world to see but wow what what a one of one type of unique event where the most powerful man in the world logged all of his inner most thoughts that he didn't think anyone to read and now we all get to benefit from it and that's meditations i'm like well this is way better because this is like that for a ceo because he didn't even have to write it which is already one filter right maybe one maybe sometimes days you don't write maybe you you're right but you're not sharing the full context maybe you're not maybe you're being a little generous to yourself versus every keys stroke everything i looked at every distraction every tab i open i can't believe that he did this and also he didn't say what he's doing with it but i'm pretty fascinated to find out what that is me too i think it's amazing so like i i'm a i'm big into this i so like i have a secret i call my secret youtube where i make like a i i you know how like in your phone when you like film your kids you typically only do like a ten second video of them doing something cute i love home videos so like remember when your dad like you just keep the cam quarter on wait to keep it on for like ten minutes and then like i don't know if you've ever experienced that magical moment where you're like eighteen or you know rh age now and you're like oh dad like one let me play one and you'll just sit and watch it for like fifteen minutes like it it does feel magical and i only have i think i only have one video of me as a kid because my parents didn't have one and i'm like oh man i long for that i wish i had that and so what i do is i film like five minute videos where i'm just walking around the house having a conversation and we're not performing we're just like hanging out and i upload it every day to my youtube and the reason i did it is there this app called one second a day or one i figured out is that what what's called one minute a day is it one minute day no no one second you're right it's one second but it's actually i think three seconds we actually changed just to three seconds where when my little girl was born the day she was born all the way up to her first birthday we did a three second video every single day and and and whenever i watch this video it makes me cry like it's like so emotional because like i'll see my dog who's not alive anymore or you'll see like family members or whatever and it's like a very emotional you'll like oh wow that that was amazing remember gonna tell me you're there and so i was inspired by that and i was i'm gonna do this every day now but for like a ten minute or a five minute video and it's not like a youtube thing i'm not or it's not like i'm editing it i literally just record home video and i just upload it and like i'll just we'll scroll it one day which she's older and so i love doing archive and i remember there was this thing called the rescue time do you remember rescue time i remember that thing but what was it was it just bring it was it like time hop it was just bringing back at old photo right so rescue time was the thing that tim ferris promoted and the whole premise of it was it's gonna tell you crack time what you spend your time on and i remember using that and i'm like i wish you could tell me more like i wish i could like track my behavior on the internet and tell me about myself but back then this was fifteen or ten years ago we didn't have that technology now because of my obsession of like i do like tracking i love tracking i i wish that i could like do this for more facets of my life and when i saw like toby thing i'm like i long for that i want that so bad yeah yeah that's interesting i i i go the other side on the over tracking everything i only track when i'm trying to make a change so if i'm trying to make a behavior change or like let's say maybe whether it's in myself or in my company so right now what do i track i track my kind of food and weight in my exercise habits and right now because i'm writing book i track did i write this morning for the first you know the first two hours of my day did i write yes or no right and so i'm just tracking those two things is that's a new behavior i'm trying to implement and sort of what gets measured gets managed i find that the tracking just tracking generally tracking everything is somehow like nervous energy to me i i said this one's about sleep tracking i was like good sleep is obvious how'd you feel when you're woke up you'll know you didn't need to check the number my resting heart rate my oh i i went into you know deepgram four last night for forty eight minutes it's like what do you i don't know what you're talking about like you it's very obvious if you slept well or not then again i think aura has sold like twenty million rings or something like that right so there's obviously like a sort of insecurity or nervous energy you can tap into of people who are hobby who enjoy knowing more about them themselves think about that quantify trial i'm talking about tracking as in memories like i like looking back like for example i have closed from when i was a kid that my girl my little girl wears now and i'm like that makes me feel special i'm so happy i saved it like like i'm talking about like memories like i got like memories i don't i don't wear an nor ring at don't your talking about like rescue time right that's more time tracking rob du deck right when rob du came on track every minute of every day i'm talking about is what i'm saying is i wish i could have used that but in a different way and what toby is doing is a kind of a cool example where like i'm logging things to like so i can look back six or twelve months or ten years later and i'm like let's see my evolution like did i like it i just think that it's very curious and and interesting do you use the meta classes no are they awesome should i get them they're awesome they're really great if you wanna do the kind of one second a day v dhs cam quarter thing it's kinda of perfect it doesn't go the ten fifteen minutes length that's like too long we're gonna be you get two minutes at basically if you just supposed to go off though and it's your point of view and you don't have to take out your phone like first all would you take out your phone you're out of the moment and then they're like okay i guess i'm supposed to dance now what do i do like i'm not sure exactly what to do especially once your kids start playing sports it's like the hand thing of the world like it's it is like the soccer mom's dream is to be able to just push the button and now you get to watch the game but you also get to record what's going on very easily so these things are amazing i think they're about to make them good bad and what good bad is they're they're putting like a screen in it so it's like and while you're walking around you can scroll instagram and i'm like god you can check your email it's like okay cool like i can see why that's useful but i don't think it's like wise to do that right whereas the version they have now the version i have is just camera only so it's just a capture device maybe not i will don't do anything else that's capture device and it's headphones so if you want like if you don't wanna wear airpods it's an amazing set of headphones that just like sit over your ear but you hear it and only you hear it other people don't hear it pretty great i think the third time you've you've mentioned this i'll get it i'll get it i'll buy these is actually great a great thing for parents because like you know your kids on the wings and you just like like this is a moment right now or i think this is a moment and it's like one second like less than one second away and you're capturing it and then you're still in the moment that's cool yeah i'll get them i'm in they used to be five hundred dollars now they're way cheaper yeah and they're just getting better every time they do it there's one more but i don't wanna buried at the end of this episode i wanna actually leave with the next time because i've been dabbling with a different ai tool that i think is incredible 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